[Flafurs] Gaming PC - $800

Thu Nov 8 22:57:28 EST 2007

Your arguments are silly.
**
*a $600 video card is a total waste of money. there is NO game or
motherboard out there to date that can use those cards to the fullest*

There is no game out yet that can use the card's full potential power.
I think anyone buying the card would be happy to hear that. =P  Why you are
trying to argue about a card that can still be used 4 years from now is
beyond me.

And yes, there are motherboards out there that can support these cards and
even more so above and beyond.. sorry to say.  Why else would the developers
make the card for people to buy??

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2573618&SRCCODE=WEBINKPLP&CMP=OTC-INKTOMI

I would never buy it myself, but there it is.  over $1,000+ in price Intel
Processor.  Hell, the regular Intel Core 2 Duo's can support the high end
cards and they are $700 cheaper.
Your statement about some games not running on DirectX10 is false
considering there are no true DirectX10 games even available yet to play
(except Crysis, which comes out in a few days).  Never heard about any
DirectX 9 games being unplayable. (There's always updates and patches for
drivers)  And yes.. no matter how much you argue it.  A $600 card would last
alot longer than an $80 dollar Geforce 5500MX.

Yeah, the more expensive cards can run games at 160fps ~(NOW).  But what
about 2 years from now when the software that it was intended for is
released?  Good luck playing that stuff with your $80 card.  :P

Anyways.. it's been fun.. but I'm done arguing about video cards.
On Nov 8, 2007 9:51 PM, <hinoookami at aol.com> wrote:

> a $600 video card is a total waste of money. there is NO game or
> motherboard out there to date that can use those cards to the fullest not to
> mention you have to run vista to even use direct x 10. and oh yah... 10.1games wont play on direct x 10 cards. Truth is that any person who buys 1 of
> those cards will replace that card in the same time ill replace my x1650.
> Because of the way games are designed it is impossible to say that a $600
> card will last you longer than and $80. Im not going to spend money on a
> card just because it can output 120 fps because your monitor most likely can
> not output even close to that and your eye can only see at roughly 60.
> -Hino
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Laphin Hyena <hyenafur at gmail.com>
> To: flafurs at lists.floridafurs.com
>  Sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 8:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [Flafurs] Gaming PC - $800
>
>  It'll take alot more than $600 to throw down on an entire computer if you
> intend on having a super gaming computer.  $500-$600 would be about how much
> you'd pay for the strongest video card alone in now's time.  Go look at the
> price for a Geforce8800 GTX, or a Geforce8800ULTRA.   Mind you this is not
> including the new AMD and Intel Duo Processors and Motherboards that have
> been released which are priced around $200 or more each.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/eVGA-e-GeForce-Ultra-PCI-E-Graphics/dp/B000Q6V2UK
>
> (You can look all kinds of places, but a truly GREAT card that'll last for
> years instead of months, mid-range cards, they all cost about the same)
>
> You may could getaway with buying a cheaper one, but for what reason??  So
> it can last 4 months before it dies out from technological upgrades and
> you'd have to buy a new one??
>
> Here's the part where my computer comes in (it's one of those computers).
> Yeah, it's AGP and it's obsolete now as no more AGP cards are being created
> anymore (so far).  But the card itself is strong enough to play Xbox360
> games on high.. when there is a technological advancement, I'm sure all
> you'd have to do is sacrifice some settings in order to continue playing
> (medium settings or lower).  That's just how it goes..  and why I'm not
> selling my computer for over $1000.  I'm willing to go down to $500.
>
> I know my computer is AGP.  But it's the strongest AGP out there, and I
> play Call of Duty 2, Battlefield 2 type games with no slow downs whatsoever
> on high settings.  So until new games come out with some super major upgrade
> that requires a New Console System entirely I doubt the card will be THAT
> much 'obsolete' for some time to come.
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2007 7:38 PM, <hinoookami at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Key word is AGP which is quickly becoming obsolete. plus AGP max data
> > rate is 2 GB/s in 1 direction PCIE is 4GB/s out and 4GB/s back. And yes you
> > can create a gaming system for under 750. for the last 5 years I have been
> > making computers that can play ANY game on the market and somtimes i can
> > even make them for less then 600. You just have to know what products to buy
> > and where to get them. If you do it right you can get perfectly stable
> > equipment for super cheap.
> >
> > -Hino
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Laphin Hyena <hyenafur at gmail.com>
> > To: flafurs at lists.floridafurs.com
> > Sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 6:15 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Flafurs] Gaming PC - $800
> >
> >  This Gainward 7800 is the FASTEST card and will probably always be the
> > fastest AGP card ever made, since it was around the last before the switch
> > to PCIe motherboards.  There were only a few of them made because of the
> > difficulty of bridging them from a PCIe make.
> >
> > So it's basically a PCIe card.. but in an AGP model, and just as fast as
> > the actual thing.
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2007 3:45 PM, Xan Steel <xansteel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Yea, you can go lower, but then you run the risk of getting crappy
> > > third party equipment, that might break in a couple months, or be DOA.
> > >
> > >
> > > Xan Steel
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