[Flafurs] Unnecessary list traffic

Scott 'Simba' Garron simba at pridelands.org
Sat Jun 9 11:46:26 EDT 2007


Peimur Linyaari wrote:
> Are you serious? It takes all of 1/10th of a second to scim past a

      First of all, it is "skim".  Second, why should *I*, along with
*everyone else on the list*, have to take extra time to decipher what is
new content and what is old content?  If you take 1/10th of a second to
trim *your* post, 255 others don't have to take the time to look at
stuff that they have already seen.  It just looks like trash thrown all
around; like a movie theater after the movie - the floor all sticky with
cola, popcorn and containers everywhere...  Before those containers were
on the floor, they were useful - carrying yummy concessions to the
movie-goers.  Rather than take them to the waste container, you throw
them on the floor so that they may trash up the place with no regard or
consideration for others, you heartless bastard.

> and don't even start in on it "wasting inbox space" cus thats just

      Not only is it wasting inbox space, it is wasting inbox space and
network transfer bits for 255 people.  Why are you insisting that
multiplying completely unnecessary data 255 times is somehow better than
not doing it?

> <<CUT>>

      After I saw that little stunt where you only quoted the
unnecessary data, I wanted to erase your existence.  Instead, I went to
see Toxic Audio at House of Blues with some friends.  I was fuming in my
car the whole way there, though, trying to find ways of getting even.
It only resulted in screams of frustration, followed by strange looks
from other motorists, because the only thing that I could come up with
was to black hole your mail server's IP block from the server that hosts
this mailing list.  That would be easy for me to do, but the frustration
came because of the inner conflict that resulted.  As much as I am
vehemently against improper e-mail reply formatting, I am even more
against censorship on the Internet.  Plus, since you are using yahoo, it
would have had the unfortunate (or maybe fortunate?) side-effect of
blocking all of yahoo.  Congratulations, though, and welcome to my
shitlist - a position shared by only 4 other people.

> I like chattin with people on the list and wish someone would make a 
> FLAFURS forum.

      There is already an IRC channel for the more real-time chatter.
What would be the added benefit of a forum over the mailing list?

> I don't see anything annoying about including the original text

      It is spammy, looks like clutter, and is easily avoided.  Back
before Microsoft Mail (now called Outlook Express) existed, it was very,
very rare to see replies incorrectly formatted.  The propensity for
laziness followed the onset of a default behavior that a Microsoft
programmer introduced:  It places the cursor at the top of the replied
text instead of at the bottom.  That one blunder, made by an incompetent
programmer who was too lazy to work through a way to do it right without
causing an error (true story), caused a rise in the frequency in which
people get lazy with formatting replies.  When the client places the
cursor at the bottom, it causes the user to see the signature lines and
other fluff and provided motivation for them to do something about it.

      Because Microsoft Mail/Outlook Express got included in every copy
of Windows, it became the introduction to e-mail for most people from
that point forward.  That rise in ignorance became so great that it
became accepted as the norm and developers of other mail clients ended
up following suit.  I remember a cleaner Internet, though; back when
people cared and weren't lazy.  It makes me weep to see the degradation
of our once precious Internet and is one of the many reasons that I
passionately hate Microsoft.



Inali wrote:

> If people didn't respond and react to your other million posts about 
> netiquette, why do you think they will now? I think it's a lost
> cause, hun.

      The number of netiquette reminders has not reached a million yet.
It is my hope that posting these very infrequent reminders will find at
least one user who was unaware of their ignorance toward this issue and
cause them to change their ways.  One user can make a difference.  I
have seen that scenario come true on several occasions.  When people do
not realize the error of their ways, they will continue producing those
errors.

> So go get yourself some chocolate and take a hot bubble bath. :)

      I only have a shower and I am not a fan of chocolate.  :[[

-- 

Scott 'Simba' Garron


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